Dimes to Dollars- a military wife's guide to personal finance: Enough with the Adsense!

Tuesday, November 28, 2006

 

Enough with the Adsense!

Yesterday I read this provocative post from the logorrheic Trent at The Simple Dollar, and I was simply incensed. Not at payperpost, but at Trent, and all the rest of you who stick advertisements on your blogs.
I went though all the blogs on my blogroll yesterday, and put asterisks by the ones that lacked advertisements. Can you believe it, of the 40 or so blogs on my roll, there were only TEN that lacked advertisements? All the rest had “sponsored links,” Adsense, or Amazon Associate links, basically something upon which clicking would create income for the blogger. This is ridiculous, and for the majority of you, it’s probably more of a hindrance than a help.

After reading Trent’s post, and seeing his ads, I pointed out he is just as much a whore as the payperposters, and he deleted my comment. This doesn’t make the point less valid though, and in fact may underscore that among a lot of bloggers, Adsense is a sore spot. It seems ironic that among a crowd of people who talk about money, they get all worked up about… money.
In an eerie coincidence of timing (since I drafted this article last night), JLP posts about a blog scraper out there, and rather than wanting to cite the guy for a DMCA violation and being a general nuisance, he seems to be primarily concerned with getting the guy’s Adsense account suspended. Huh? You care less about the fact that someone is stealing your content and more concerned that he might make 3 cents on an errant ad click? Are we from the same universe?

I really really don’t see the allure of Adsense. Aside from a few of the most popular blogs, I doubt many of you are making very much from it, probably not even enough to pay for your webhosting, assuming you even *need* to pay for webhosting. Who actually clicks on the ads? Several web browsers come with a plugin where you can turn off third-party scripts, and that includes Adsense, of course. Most of the bloggers who post their monthly Adsense revenues earn less than $20/month. Some people seem to think that more ads = more money, and one can scarcely find their content for all the ads, reminiscent of an about.com page.
Have you ever bothered to visit the sorts of sites that appear in your Adsense columns? An amazing number of them are dubious at best, and outright scams at worst. Would you really condone these sorts of sites if you weren’t getting paid to do so? “Be a millionaire in two years!” “Quick and secure payday loans!” “Make $20,000 on eBay!” “Easy Money at Home!” I wouldn’t condone or patronize them even if they paid me. They seem to run contrary to basic fiscal responsibility, and any sane person claiming to support financial responsibility would hate to be associated with them.
Isn’t it hypocritical to have advertisements on blogs about responsible spending or getting out of debt? You may be trying to get out of debt, but you’re tacitly encouraging your readers to take on more debt by visiting your sponsors and (presumably, since that’s the point of having ads) spending money on whatever they’re hawking.

Ramit Sethi had a great post in October 2005 about monetizing blogs. Take a minute to read it, then click around and see how many people are doing just what Ramit talks about. If you are a new blogger, consider the effect of ads on your blog, if you have them. They are absolutely deleterious to the “customer experience,” as Ramit calls it. If you really want to make money, add a tip jar, a la Casey Serin. It’s no less subtle than Adsense, and spares your readers from obnoxious, dubious, and unwanted ads.

16 Comments:

Anonymous Trent said...

"After reading Trent’s post, and seeing his ads, I pointed out he is just as much a whore as the payperposters, and he deleted my comment." I did not manually delete your comment; in fact, I never even saw your comment. More than likely, you used a term in your comment that caused the comment to be auto-deleted and I never even saw it. I believe "whore" is one of those terms that causes an auto-delete.

As for the use of AdSense, in no way does AdSense affect the content being provided, thus I have zero problem with it. If someone works hard to build a site that I want to visit because of their content, they deserve to reap the rewards of that content.

The web is the home of free content, but nothing is truly free. I choose not to use Blogger because I want my site to be up and available more than 80% of the time, so I'm paying out of my own pocket to provide a service to my readers. Beyond that, I'm giving away tons and tons of content with no obligation whatsoever from the reader. They don't even have to view the ads - as you said, readers can easily shut off the ads, or they can use a feed reader to read the content. The ads are only served up to one slice of my readership, and the ads are only there because, well, I'm paying for their privilege to read my content.

11/28/2006 3:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not into advertising on my site. It makes me anxious and it drives me to want people to come to my site just so I can make money. It just makes me tired to try to impress other people when it's not about that.

On another note- I do have ONE link on my site but it is for YNAB and I do receive a commision if someone utilizes it but its only because I believe in the product strongly and want others to know about it. I want them to be able to have a nice tool like I have. Other than that, I refuse to put adsense or Pay Per Post. It takes away from my content.

11/28/2006 5:18 PM  
Blogger Dimes said...

Trent: While Adsense may not in and of itself modify your content, it will absolutely affect people's impressions of your site. When they click on your page and see junk like "$75000 quick cash... borrow 125% of home value instant approval cash in 12 days" that's sketchy as hell, and while you may not have selected that particular ad, it's nonetheless on your page. If you take full ownership of your page, you're responsible for the ads that appear there. I guess a lot of people look at Adsense as a victimless crime, but if advertisers don't get revenue from the clicks, they'll stop paying to advertise (which wouldn't be a BAD thing, but would sort of defeat the purpose of getting paid for adsensing).

Lndsymaria: Good for you, and I agree with your sentiments

11/28/2006 6:29 PM  
Anonymous Golbguru said...

I don't know why you singled out poor Trent :)..I see more blogs with adsense than without it...but it doesn't bother me. For two reasons, one I have a script blocker on my Firefox which blocks all ads, and two I am blind to adsense ads even if they are present.

That has led me to a contradiction. If I don't click on such ads on other people's blogs...I am sure a lot of other bloggers don't click on adsense ads either. So who exactly clicks on these ads? I don't yet have a good answer for that. And if nobody clicks on these ads, then what's the point of having them in the first place? So much for the confusion.

But, till now I have about $40 in my adsense account (including the old site), which is not at all bad for a 5 month run. And I get a few clicks every day. Now, if it continues in this fashion, I may hope to recover the cost of my site hosting in about a year. That greed is keeping me from removing these ads totally. At some point I may totally remove them, but I am not there yet. And unlike Ramit, I don't sign book deals and run my own companies...so it might take me a while to look for better options :).

11/29/2006 2:42 PM  
Anonymous J.D. @ Get Rich Slowly said...

I feature advertising on my site, but not without trepidation. I have mixed feelings. (And I write about these mixed feelings from time-to-time.) For one, as you say, the Adsense ads that appear are generally the opposite of the message I preach. (I wrote about this dilemma last week.)

But I'm not opposed to site advertising. In fact, I think it's great if people are able to make money from their site. My site income certainly provides a strong motivation for me to continue publishing solid information daily. A few readers have voiced disapproval of advertising on my site, but the majority are very supportive.

I'm working on a plan that may remove the awful Adsense ads from my site in favor of more appropriate advertising. We'll see how that goes.

And, as a footnote, I find PayPerPost and its ilk abhorrent.

11/29/2006 2:47 PM  
Blogger Dimes said...

Golb: I didn't single out trent, he'd just written the article condemning the one while accepting the other, and I thought that was interesting. You prove my point too, that with the ads you've averaged about $8 per month. At that rate, I worked a polling place on Election Day and made $100, which is the equivalent of a year's worth of Ad clicks.
Ramit is probably getting book deals and such because his blog definitely has staying power. He's been around for over two years and isn't shielding his identity, as opposed to most bloggers.

JD: I read your post last week, and it probably put this bug in my ear. I suspect with all the fraud and misuse, Adsense may end up being revamped in the near future. Hopefully this will be an improvement.

11/29/2006 3:56 PM  
Anonymous Golbguru said...

But you see, I didn't waste more than 15 mins for the $8 a month :). All I had to do was put the add and watch the balance grow :)

I am just yanking your chain here, I know it's getting crapier. I will let you know first when I stop being Google's whore. :)

11/29/2006 4:55 PM  
Blogger English Major said...

I don't do AdSense either, or Google text ads, or any of that stuff. Perhaps ironically, I would consider doing ReviewMe, because there you're giving an honest opinion about the product. Getting paid $20 to do a post panning a personal finance book, for example, works for me fine, because there isn't the tacit acceptance of shady deals and financially worthless "opportunities."

11/29/2006 5:51 PM  
Anonymous samerwriter said...

You raise an interesting issue.

I have adsense ads on my blog. On a typical day I might make a few cents from it. Frankly I don't care if anyone clicks on my ads, and my total adsense earnings in the ~6 months I've had the ads is around .01% of my annual income.

The reason I have the ads is simple. My blog is a learning experiment for me. I'm curious about the effort needed to create and sustain a blog. I'm interested in what kinds of posts generate interest, either from other bloggers or search engines. I'm fascinated by the ability of an average joe blogger to make even a few pennies off of his thoughts.

Trying out ads is part of my experiment. I doubt I'll ever be a full-time blogger. I don't think I'd even want to be. But I'm curious, and learning about some of the usage models for monetizing content on the web may potentially pay off someday in a future career.

11/30/2006 12:31 AM  
Anonymous samerwriter said...

One more thought; I just read the post you linked at "iwillteachyoutoberich", and the author's attitude seems to be hypocritical.

He makes money off his blog. Perhaps indirectly, but by raising his profile, he increases his chances of booking speaking engagements. Good for him, that's likely part of his business plan. But to lecture others who choose to make their money in some other way is condescending, and I've seen no reason to believe he is qualified to be condescending.

And what makes him think that just because someone puts ads on their site that they are sacrificing quality for money? Like it or not, one way to measure what content is valuable to readers is by which ads generate clicks.

The two can go hand in hand. Someone whose content isn't worth much won't make any money (like me!). Someone whose content is valuable will make money. Someone who litters his site with ads will lose his audience quickly.

11/30/2006 12:43 AM  
Blogger JLP said...

I have used Adsense for nearly two years now. Yes, some of the ads do go against the message I'm preaching. However, I would hope that my readers are too smart to click on those particular ads. I don't let the Adsense ads influence what I write about. In fact, most of the time I couldn't even tell you what the ads were. I simply don't pay attention to them nor do I try to draw attention to them.

I will say this:

WITH or WITHOUT Adsense, my content would remain the same.

Finally, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. After all, this is YOUR blog. Do with it what you will.

I wish you the best.

JLP

AllFinancialMatters

PS - For what it's worth, Adsense takes a while to get going. A blog that gets 1,000 hits per day can figure on making around $200 per month from Adsense.

11/30/2006 11:20 PM  
Blogger JLP said...

Golbguru wrote:

"...I have a script blocker on my Firefox which blocks all ads,..."

Why would you block ads? What's the big deal with ads? I can understand a pop-up blocker but why would you purposely want to block ads on a person's blog?

11/30/2006 11:26 PM  
Blogger Dimes said...

Samer: Maybe someday I'll visit your blog and corrupt your data by clicking only on the stupid ads. "Sell your home in seven days!" "Hair Loss Restoratives!" ;-)

JLP: Some ads, not usually the kind found on people's sites but on bigger sites (like Yahoo and Hotmail and the Internet Movie DataBase) crash my browser. It could be that my computer is old and slow and crappy, but if I can turn off that junk it improves the speed and keeps me from getting the "not responding" warning. I can't speak for golb, but if I were turning off the ads, I certainly wouldn't customize which ones I saw and which I didn't. :-)

11/30/2006 11:51 PM  
Anonymous Golbguru said...

Dimes, JLP: It's more of a "script" blocker. There is a lot of malicious script (like key logging scripts, other stupid cookie script, pop-up scripts and stuff)...and a script blocker just prevents any such unwanted script from running. most ads are scripts and hence they all get blocked. If you look at Firefox downloads, there are quite a few million downloads for "No Script" - the script blocking extension...apparently millions of guys use it, not just me :)

12/01/2006 1:55 AM  
Anonymous cleo said...

Good alternative for Adsense is PeakClick. Want some reasons to join, here are just a few: Sign up is free, Extremely easy to set up and implement, Real time statistics, One of the highest pay out rates in the industry (70%), One of the top affiliate programs (earn commissions on 3 separate sales levels), Get paid every 15 days, High quality customer service and technical support.

7/24/2007 2:39 AM  
Blogger Jose Anes said...

Adsense is not a big money earner for me. It gives me about $200 a year. It pays for the hosting fees.

What I have found out is that some people are willing to put links in my site for a fixed cost: lets say $10/month. Those help a bit more and pay for my computer upgrades.

It is not a lot of money... but it is hobby income to cover for my hobby expenses.

Money And Investing

9/14/2007 1:11 PM  

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